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Has anyone seen Kings of Pain Season 2 Episode 9 | Category: Fishing Talk

Mark Totzke 7 months ago

Guys - you won't believe it, but we got screwed by the producers of Kings of Pain in episode 9 season 2 - stinging sharks!

Here is how it happened.

About a year ago the producers of Kings of Pain contacted us and asked us if they can interview us on their show about
our experience getting stung by a Spiny Dogfish. They found a short video that we published about this on our channel a while ago. Until then I had never heard of Kings of Pain because I don't really watch much TV. But later I found out that this is a pretty big production

They were filming an episode about stinging sharks and wanted to talk to someone with first-hand experience.
We agreed to this and were promised that they will give credit to in their end credits.

Well, we just watched the episode - what a disappointment.
They used our footage, including the interview with me and you guessed it... Zero credit is given except for a short mention of our names without any context and without mentioning fishingreminder.

How rude is that? I feel very much screwed over by these guys after investing time in the interview and giving them permission to use our footage for absolutely nothing in return. We are not even allowed to use the footage of the interview in our own videos while they earn big bucks with their show.

Lesson learnt: Never trust any TV production companies.

If you watch this episode you can see me giving the interview at about 23 minutes into the show.
The only credit given is my name with the subtitle "professional fisherman" and Hyeshins name appears briefly in the end credits.

That's how they do it and now we know. But at least we got one thing in return - we learned a lesson, LOL

a snapper a day keeps the doctor away
itsaboat 7 months ago

Never seen it. But I also don't watch much TV. I only have satellite TV now.

Do you have a release contract?

You might like to get some legal advice. I think you should get some.

Under the Burns Convention (copyright) you own the video. They might own the interview. They would be very silly, in fact stupid, not to have put it all in writing. If it is not in writing you just might be looking at a nice big pay day...But get some legal advice.

The Burns Convention allows for use of copyright material for, critical review - fair use - education - reporting news and humor.

If legal advice says it's a no go, let me know. I will do some research in the mean time. I will use "humor" to "critical review" them from one end of the internet to the other - and you know I will !!

itsaboat mate...Life is just a boat and then ya marry one !
kingiFiddler 7 months ago

That sucks.

Any record of the promised plug/credits for you guys and the site?

Any correspondence with/from them prior to publication?

Any correspondence from you to them detailing your grievance?

The world's a better place after a paddle.
itsaboat 7 months ago

itsaboat mate...Life is just a boat and then ya marry one !
Mark Totzke 7 months ago

Haha, itsaboat - I knew you'd say that.

But I'm NOT gonna deal with lawyers and legal stuff. Life is too short and that is too much stress for me.
I'm going to take this as a life lesson for the future.

It was my mistake dealing with them and signing away release contracts, believing they would properly credit me.

I will also take this as an opportunity to create content for our own channels.

Telling the story and warning others who get contacted by these TV producers.
They take your content and your time, earn tons of money and then leave you in the dust.

Should have known that on first contact. But this is life. You learn as you go. I'm not gonna stress out about it.

a snapper a day keeps the doctor away
itsaboat 7 months ago

Fair enough. Upto you. I wouldn't mind having a look at the release contract, if you like. Most copyright claims are resolved without the need for formal legal action. If you want me to take a look just email a copy to me. There might also be grounds for a Breach of Promise claim but the wording of the contract is the key.

I found the video. It is on netflix. My downloader can't get past their membership wall. But I have a few more tricks to try.

That David Carr is apparently the exe producer. They also have a public Facebook page. Well Adam does !!

He comes from Perth. I have 2 email addresses for him, so far...Don't you think he looks a bit like Alby Mangles ?? Mangles was heavily accused of filming a lot of his scene in a paddock on his farm in South Australia.

itsaboat mate...Life is just a boat and then ya marry one !